my second is i'm trying to get a turtles in time pcb and the only one i can find for a good price is a 2 player version. I really don't want to spend the money on a 2 player version, so is there anyway to make it a 4 player and if so how?
Its actually a 4-player board--both the Turtles and the Turtles in time boards are set up Similarly --right next to where your jamma connector hooks on to the board, you'll see two sets of pins labeled CN3 and CN4. Those are where your 3/4 player wiring plugs in. Should be simple if you're upgrading, just hook CN3 to CN3 on the new board; do the same for CN4.
Here are both boards for comparison, you can see the white Player 3/4 connectors on both;
Original Turtles:
And the "In Time" board:
P.S.--I dug a bit further and found Attract Mode on the original Turtles is a simple dipswitch setting--look again at the first board I posted again. Look in the upper left. See all the little switches? To turn Attract Mode on, you need to turn ON switch #8 in the middle set.