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Author Topic: Galaga? Galaxian? PCB Nightmare HELP  (Read 7345 times)
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« on: August 06, 2014, 04:38:49 am »

New pickup....Crappy Galaga CP and Galaxian Bezel. PCB Wiring Nightmare.

I have no picture at all, the last guy replaced the monitor supposedly. I think he just swapped out the tube.

















Youtube Video Of Board.....
http://youtu.be/lsL430cVeNk
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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2014, 06:14:49 am »

That´s "Gallag" (Galaga bootleg) pcb. These had a different pinout than the original. This explais this wiring mess at the edge connector. I would try finding an original PCB and desolder the mess. The Galaga bootleg boards are not bad though. The Galaga "enhancement pack" works on these, too.
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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2014, 06:25:20 am »

I wonder if the monitor issue is because of the game board.

An original game board would be best, no?
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2014, 11:55:09 pm »

Like i said before the Galaga bootleg PCB aren´t bad. For the no video issue i would check the 5 pin video connector on the video board.
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2014, 04:02:58 am »

Like i said before the Galaga bootleg PCB aren´t bad. For the no video issue i would check the 5 pin video connector on the video board.

is this right below?....Galaga Bootleg PinOut PDF File

http://goo.gl/zREWBm

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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2014, 06:51:58 am »

This is right. The 5-pin video connector is on the lower board.



I don´t know if the wiring can brought back to it´s original condition. This looks really bad.



Maybe you will end up converting it to JAMMA and run the PCB with an adapter from arcadashop.com. They have JAMMA adapters for both, Galaga bootleg and original Galaga.


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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2014, 07:52:11 pm »

So your saying I could buy the "Galaga (Galaga bootleg) JAMMA Adapter" from arcadeshop.com and then buy a new Jamma Harness and I would be able to hook that up and everything would work?

Or

I could desoder the mess, clip wires and resoder?


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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2014, 01:28:37 am »

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So your saying I could buy the "Galaga (Galaga bootleg) JAMMA Adapter" from arcadeshop.com and then buy a new Jamma Harness and I would be able to hook that up and everything would work?
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I could desolder the mess, clip wires and resolder?

This way you would have a clean connection to the pcb and start from there (in case the no-video issue is still present after this).

If you are going the JAMMA route, don´t buy the Jamma harness in your picture. I had that one and it´s crap.
Arcadeshop or Mike´s Arcade have the good quality harness.

Another option is finding the original Galaga pcb and rewire your cabinet with Arcadeshop´s Galaga Wiring Harness.
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« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2014, 11:29:18 pm »

UPDATE

Ok so apparently I found out (and correct me if I'm wrong) the startup screen for Galaga is "1's and 0's" that come on the screen...no? Thats what my screen is stuck on. The question for the forum is "what do I do next?" Do the chips need to be cleaned? What is preventing the board from the proper boot sequence? I will be researching this and hopefully someone out there has an answer.

Thanks.... p.s. see picture below

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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2014, 02:13:28 am »

So how did you get the video problem solved?

After checking if the pcb gets the correct voltage, i would try reseating the ROMs. Maybe clean their legs, too.

The boot screen looks more like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOC347lACHo


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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2014, 03:41:17 am »

So how did you get the video problem solved?


Replacing the fuses apparently did it. The wiring is still pretty much a mess. My friend went through all the wires and tried the bootleg galaga pinout and the screen went blank again. He switched it back to the way the last guy had it and the 1's and 0's popped back on the screen. So maybe he has some hacked up version of a jamma wiring thing going on...I don't know. But apparently we just needed some new fuses. My suspicion is something still isn't right. If it pops the fuses again then we will definitely know. For now, I guess we will try to "carefully" pop out and clean all the chips with a dremmel and see what happens.
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« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2014, 07:26:21 pm »

i don't know if that is considered a rom check or a boot sequence
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« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2014, 09:04:13 pm »

not sure either. I have checked some youtube videos and the videos show this screen animated but my screen is just frozen on this and nothing is moving. Time to break out the dremmel and clean some chips (carefully)
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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2014, 09:30:06 pm »

new harness is def needed , burn the oldone n play taps
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