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1  Tech and Marketplace / I need help with my game! - Technical Discussion / Re: WG 6100 - spot killer on: October 14, 2015, 10:04:40 pm
Re: "Test the Game Board Outputs before Turning the Monitor On.
Make sure the game board is outputting correct voltages before you power the monitor
on! Otherwise you can waste the monitor and all the above work. To test the outputs, set
your meter on DC volts and measure the leads of R600 and R700 (fuses) of the deflection
board. These are connected to the plug with wire colors yellow (R600) and orange
(R700). The correct voltage should be in the +0.5 to -0.5 volt range (basically zero volts).
The voltage will fluctuate because of changing deflection signals. If the measured voltage
is between 5 and 15 volts (positive or negative), then check the X and Y amplifiers on the
GAME board. Also check for broken potentiometers on the game board."

I was reading this part and wanted to make sure I understood. The R600 and R700 on the deflection are resistors, right? Also, I poser on the game, right? I ask because the comment was to test the output before turning the monitor on so is the game plugged in and game on, but disconnected from the monitor? I have been trying to test the x and y amplifiers but don't quite understand how to do it.  Thanks!
2  Tech and Marketplace / I need help with my game! - Technical Discussion / Re: WG 6100 - spot killer on: September 28, 2015, 03:43:36 pm
the spot killer doesn't affect the HV. so it sounds like something is wrong there if there is no HV when you probe.

I dont know what knowledge you have for debugging power supplies but the short of it is you need to make sure you have your -26V, +26V and B+ going to the HV board. Then check that the 555 timer is running properly. If your meter has a frequency check or use a scope on pin 3 to make sure you are running, should be somewhere around 20khz. If that is still working it might be worth considering that the HV diode is dead. This is almost impossible to test, if you are lucky its shorted and you know its bad. but they can be open and there is no way to find out. the forward drop of that thing is around 180V so no multimeter diode test will cut it.

After thinking about your comment for a bit, I did test the B+ and it checked ok. I do think I have a problem with the other test to the HV board (-26V, +26V) so I will research how to test that properly.  Thanks.
3  Tech and Marketplace / I need help with my game! - Technical Discussion / Re: WG 6100 - spot killer on: September 28, 2015, 09:59:28 am
Thanks so much for the advice. I will be sure to check everything mentioned this week and hopefully get it running again. I was very careful in replacing everything and the machine is in such good shape that I'd hate to have it sitting idle any more than it has to. I think this game was rarely played because it is original and looks like it never saw the inside of an arcade.

Again, many thanks for the advice.
4  Tech and Marketplace / I need help with my game! - Technical Discussion / Re: WG 6100 - spot killer on: September 24, 2015, 05:48:35 pm
Did you read the 6100 FAQ? It's amazing.

http://www.ionpool.net/arcade/tech/6100_faq.pdf

I am not sure what to tell you but the first thing I thought of was "Is it a board problem?". If the monitor is getting no video signals that spot killer will come on. The FAQ talks about checking your video signal output voltages.

http://www.skepticfiles.org/cowtext/arcade/atarixyh.htm

"The spot killer also lights if the logic board does not supply the low level X and Y signals for the monitor to
amplify."

Oh, you bet I read that and I still find helpful information even after reading it a couple of times. I have attempted to check the signal output voltages, but I think I might not be doing it correctly. I think part of the reason is I don't think I know the correct number of each pin. I think I will have to label the wires so I won't forget what I am looking at. I recall reading that section, but don't recall what to check if I am not getting the correct voltage. I believe I have checked everything related to that, but I will look again. I have not had any fuse issues either so when I look at everything, it seems that it should be working.

I have taken some time off away from it for the past few weeks because I got so fed up with it so perhaps a fresh look at things will help.
5  Tech and Marketplace / I need help with my game! - Technical Discussion / WG 6100 - spot killer on: September 24, 2015, 04:51:39 pm
I've reached the limit of my knowledge of how to fix this thing and was hoping someone might know what I can do to fix the WG6100 monitor in my Atari Tempest. The following is a summary of what is happening and what I have done.

The current and initial problem is that the game plays blind with the monitor spot killer light on and no charge in the monitor. With my HV Probe, there is nothing to discharge.  After much reading, watching John's videos, and using the deluxe cap kits (plus additional parts) from Bob Roberts, I replaced darn near everything I can think of. I have replaced everything from the cap kit, all the chassis transistors (check for shorting to the chassis), and installed the LV2000 (working). I have not replaced the flyback transformer, but am not sure how to test that.
I have not tested the output from the main board because I am not sure how to test that. Is there any advice anyone can offer? Thank you.

6  Arcade and Pinball Discussions / Beginner's Help Corner / Re: Ms. Pacman-Galaga 20 Year Reunion monitor model on: April 23, 2015, 01:05:43 pm
Awesome, thank you very much.
7  Arcade and Pinball Discussions / Beginner's Help Corner / Re: Ms. Pacman-Galaga 20 Year Reunion monitor model on: April 23, 2015, 12:01:28 pm
Ok, here are some images.



8  Arcade and Pinball Discussions / Beginner's Help Corner / Re: Common Soldering Problems (Article) on: April 21, 2015, 05:11:22 pm
That was helpful, thanks.
9  Arcade and Pinball Discussions / Beginner's Help Corner / Ms. Pacman-Galaga 20 Year Reunion monitor model on: April 21, 2015, 05:08:57 pm
I was hoping that someone might be able to assist me in determining the model of the Wells-Gardner monitor that is in my Ms. Pacman-Galaga 20 Year Reunion machine. I know it is a larger monitor, but do not know the exact model or size. The tube type number is 088X0387-001, but that's all I have been able to tell so far. Is there another place I should be looking so I can see what I have? I have no idea if it is the 7401, 7500, or some other model. Thanks!
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