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Tech and Marketplace / I need help with my game! - Technical Discussion / Re: Neo Geo Jamma/MAME Cab..Build questions?
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on: November 11, 2014, 09:09:21 pm
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Just a quicky here, if you are already going to do mame there is no reason to put a dedicated neogeo board in the cab. Mame emulates neogeo pretty much perfectly.
Yes. I've found this now as I've experimented with Mame for a little while. I'm playing with the idea of having a 3 sided Cocktail cabinet now. 2 players set up side by side on the horizontal side with 8 way sticks. and 1 player on each vertical side with 4 way sticks. Thanks Ian!
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Tech and Marketplace / I need help with my game! - Technical Discussion / Re: Neo Geo Jamma/MAME Cab..Build questions?
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on: November 08, 2014, 09:13:49 pm
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Just a note (probably not what you want to hear), maybe you should try to see if you could find a real cocktail with a Ms. Pac in it, it's a much more satisfying feeling and you already have the upright, and from a price point it seems much cheaper to go that route and install a PCB switcher or even MAME it (gasp, , please find a broken one then without a monitor or with a dead monitor and sell the boards, lowers the overall money spent even more) than to buy brand new stuff. No way would I pay $400 just for that particle board or whatever it is, seems like a major waste to me even though it's a little easier. I actually don't have an upright. This would be my first cabinet! Yeah my Dad actually suggested finding a broken Ms. Pac and doing what I want with it. I've been searching. Honestly think I wanna price out doing it from scratch with good quality wood. Even though John and others here would want me dead for doing Mame to an original (Ms.) Pacman Cocktail. I've been searching that for a little while, ebay, Kijji (The Craigslist of Canada) and the classified here and I've had no luck at all. Only things I can find are custom built ones that are going for 1,600-3,000 and I'm thinking I could build one for the lower end or cheaper than what they're asking.
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Tech and Marketplace / I need help with my game! - Technical Discussion / Re:
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on: November 08, 2014, 02:29:23 pm
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So does it have a 2 person control panel and two one person control panels? Can you post a picture?
Oh I think I found it. Yes, software can set the proper orientation of the screen. Yes, you can wire both player 1 buttons in parallel, as well as the player 2 buttons. You will probably want a bezel as it will make it so you don't see the inside of the cabinet on each side of the monitor.
Moogrum, The Cabinet I'm not yet sure if I'm gonna order this one as I live in Canada, US Customs and Brokerage fees are likely to nab me for a 500.00 thing and likely add another 100 to that price. And for that price I'd imagine I could build from scratch using instructions for assembly of one of the old Pac-Man Coctkails and just add that panel on the horizontal side. I'm looking for options with a kit so if anyone knows of a good place to order from or other similar kits I would love to know. I've just been thinking of how I need to wire it up. I thought an I-Pac 4 would be a good option for this. But as I said I might find it easier to connect them together as its not really a 4 player cab, just a two really set up for vertical and horizontal games respectively. Any help would be appreciated!
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Tech and Marketplace / I need help with my game! - Technical Discussion / MAME Cab..Build questions?
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on: November 06, 2014, 08:33:02 pm
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Okay so I'm 95% sure I wanna go mame and I found a prebuilt that I like. Its a 3 Control Panel Cocktail. 2 Player horizontal side and 1 player on each vertical side. this raises a few questions.
I assume software would turn the screen to the correct orientation or that can be programmed. (Benefits of being in Information Technology) Also how you wire it up. Would you have just a 2 player I-PAC and splice buttons together.. example being 1 player horizontal is spliced to 1 player vertical and same for 2 player. Or would you get that larger version of the I-PAC and wire them all separate? Again I assume most of this can be handled with software. Maybe its over my head I hope not as its awesome and I'd love to do it.
Another thing is the bezel frame installation I wanted to clarify if I was going to put glass over the entire top I would also still have the bezel over the screen correct?
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Tech and Marketplace / I need help with my game! - Technical Discussion / Re: Voltage
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on: November 05, 2014, 08:03:50 am
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Hey guys I was watching johns final journey video and he was checking voltage and it said 5.157. Now our "tech" at my buddies vending company says when you set voltage to set it at 5.15. is that wrong? should I be setting it at 5 even?
I would try to get it as close to five volts as possible, closer to five would be best. If you can get a reliable five volts constantly then that's perfect. So yes try to have five volts even, as you could overtime overload chips and circuits. Generally though there is a tolerance of so much. I'm not sure about arcade boards but PC's usually are right on the volts that they need, or stuff doesn't work.
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Tech and Marketplace / I need help with my game! - Technical Discussion / Re: Neo Geo Jamma/MAME Cab..Build questions?
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on: November 03, 2014, 09:36:02 am
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You'd need a signal converter board to convert the signal up while converting it to VGA and then you'd need a switcher between the two VGA cables to the monitor and probably some sort of switcher for the controls (which will have to go to the board and to the PC, somehow) unless you don't mind some major stuff happening on the other thing while you're playing the other counterpart. Seems very difficult to do along with being a waste of money and time, I'd just do one or the other, or just MAME the Neo-Geo stuff, too. There really only seems to be a few games that are not compatible/or working in MAME in regard to Neo Geo anyway. The way the J-Pac was explained to me makes it seem that I would only need a switcher for video. controls would be the same. I figure audio would be needed to be switched or spliced into somewhere as well. Mhm One or the other looks to be the best bet at this point. I'm still just in the planning and research stages of this build anyway. I just wanted to bounce some ideas off people and get as much information as possible. I may end up building two down the line. One for Jamma the other for MAME. Vertical vs horizontal games in a cab? I hear people talking like its a big issue? I've been poking about in MAME on my PC. It doesn't seem to bother me when its full screened. Could it be because I'm using a widescreen monitor that I'm not seeing the issue people are complaining about? People talk like you need to be able to rotate the monitor. I was gonna stick an old CRT PC monitor in there and just see when I get it built. VertexGuy: I meant what are the differences in the single slot boards. I new about the multi slot ones. I was just wondering of the single slot ones is there one that's better to have than the rest. eg hardware differences, or version updates, compatibility, etc Thanks for the replies Otaku and VertexGuy.
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Tech and Marketplace / I need help with my game! - Technical Discussion / Neo Geo Jamma/MAME Cab..Build questions?
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on: November 03, 2014, 08:35:02 am
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Hey all,
Not sure if this is allowed but I figure I'd make one topic for myself that I could inquire about questions or ideas that I have. If its not then John or other mods (if any) move or remove.
I've been having the idea to build a MAME cabinet for a while now but, recently I've thought well can I have both JAMMA and MAME? I like the Neo Geo a whole lot and have noticed the PCBs online for roughly 100.00 or so, there are also adapters for JAMMA. I've also seen the J-Pac for connecting buttons (Similar to I-PAC) and was told this (JAMMA + MAME) would be possible but, I'd need a video switcher of some kind. (Andy from Ultimarc mentioned this) I've no idea what a video switcher is for an arcade cab (I know what they are for PC's. I'm an IT guy by trade)
So basically first question is this even possible or should I just go with one or the other?
Would anyone care to point me in the direction of some trusted parts/retailers?
Edit: Also what are the differences between all the models of Neo Geo 1 slot PCBs? MV1C, M1BBV, etc? Are some better than others?
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General Category / Introduce Yourself / Re: Hello From St. John's, Canada!
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on: November 01, 2014, 10:12:36 pm
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Just wanted to say hello. I'm new to this whole arcade thing. Looking to build a MAME. Not sure what the stance is here for those. We shall see.
MAME is cool. Just don't destroy a classic in the process! Welcome to the site! Thank you! And I wouldn't dream of it. Just building from scratch or a kit. Gotta leave the classics alone for guys like yourself to restore! Or attempt myself once I feel up to the task and comfortable doing so.
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