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Hey, just bought a Street Fighter 2: Turbo Hyper Fighting. The one issue is the monitor flickers. What could this be?

could be cold solder, or caps try reflow first cap kit is never a bad idea too. worst case the CRT is going bad

There's a black box on the chassis with a dial on it and it has a crack, sparks are shooting out of it which is causing it to flicker. Any idea what that is?

That black box sounds like the flyback. it will need to be replaced. It's an easy fix if you buy the right one for your monitor and you observe proper safety precautions.
All you need is to know the model number of your monitor and then just start looking online, most flybacks can still be found easily.

I probably don't have to tell you not to keep running your game until you repair it.
Broken flybacks can be very dangerous to people or electronics nearby.

know anyone who has replaced a flyback in a HS-Dynamo cabinet.

That's the flyback!! Turn the game off and replace it immediately. What type of monitor is it?

Lots of guys on KLOV have done these sort of repairs, they have a whole section just on monitor repairs there, see here http://forums.arcade-museum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=43 (http://forums.arcade-museum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=43)  
Even if you can't post on there (I can't) you can still find info related to your monitor on there.
 
What is important here isn't the cabinet type, that's because several types of monitors may be used in a given cabinet style, or even swapped over the years, what you need to know is the monitor model number, If you can get that I may be able to point you in the right direction for parts/information.

From my research, there is a good chance it has a Wells Gardner brand monitor of some type as those were commonly used in Dynamo cabs.

Also, if you are uncomfortable doing the repair yourself there are lots of people online offering repair services for these.

Zenith? 25"
i had it turned on while looking at the back and sparks are shooting out of the crack and every time a spark shoots out the game flickers..i have turned it off unplugged it. here are some pics.
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i cannot seem to find out what kind of chassis this is,.

sparks shooting out, man that sounds really bad lol i assure you that is not normal :D

are there any monitor/tv repair around you? maybe you will have some luck speaking with them for identifying and for parts.

please post pics of your cabinet! i love street fighter 2. i have a sf2 champion edition

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in a HS-5 dynamo cab. cabinet has the serial number for sf2, as well as instruction manual and dynamo cabinet instruction manual.
The Marquee looks as though someone got beat one to many times from M.Bison and hit their breaking point lol. I am pleased to have this machine, it was my absolute favorite game in an arcade.

great looking machine. all those complete details are fantastic. i've seen a few machines with the control panel yellow like that I wonder why that is. looks like the buttons were changed. you should put the original red white and blue ones in.

i've seen those marquees for sale on ebay at market price, and here is a link to a high res one you can take to a printer and have them print/cut it for you: http://segamadebaddecisions.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/street-fighter-2-champion-edition-turbo-hyper-fighting-marquee-psd.jpg

looks like one of your coin door lights is out fix that with the little bulb. :) thanks for posting!

Thanks! I love it. Believe it or not it actually came with an additional both sets of buttons as replacements.

so what's the plan with your monitor and further?

I need to order a flyback and cap kit that's priority get it working.

cool

got any pics of yours?

Looks like a K7000. Double check here:

http://www.therealbobroberts.net/monitor.html

If that is indeed a K7000 you are in luck, those are workhorse monitors with a great picture and parts are easy to find. Flybacks are relatively inexpensive too, just as an example is

http://www.twistedquarter.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=784

Shipping can be a bit high using the order form there but they will refund excess, or you can just email them to get exact shipping quote, I have bought from there several times, if you wanna go that route.

Or Bob Roberts also sells them: http://therealbobroberts.net/  and both places sell the cap kits for reasonable prices too, so you can do both at once.

I found a youtube video on changing the flyback, maybe it will help http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqpouGZ8I-w  If you need more info I can look up some tutorials for you.

oh i just saw this. i have my arcade a bit torn apart at this second! pulled the plexiglass and controls out. i'll get new pics for you very soon.

I got the parts Yay happy day. Plan on getting this baby fired up on the weekend after I complete the cap kit and flyback replacement.

HaaaaDOouKen

At last a surge has come over me of accomplishment and satisfaction. I replaced my flyback tonight, booted up Street Fighter, all is well in the world. im happy happy happy!

p.s - This must be how John feels all the time!

Congratulations! nothing feels as good as fixing that first monitor or PCB

i love this! do you think you can make a video to tour your arcade machine?

haha bro i have never done that. i'll have to watch more of John's videos to do it right

an easy way is to just record each thing one by one. then you can record your voice over the footage if you wish.

cover the marquee, the side art, monitor bezel art, control panel, monitor face, coin door, then move to the access panels and around the back, back of the monitor, power supply, game board, monitor power units, and anything else unique to this cabinet. like that, if you miss something you can record another clip or insert a picture. pretty easy :) at the end you can just put the camera watching the screen and record yourself playing a game to demonstrate the sound and graphics.

alright since you asked i took pics today. i added a 4th button, this control panel only had 3 and a lot of neo geo games use 4. i printed a bunch of art of my favorite games and put them on my cabinet i dunno it makes me happy reminiscing.

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you converted it to a neo geo!!? don't get me wrong i love Neo Geo but how are you supposed to get your SFII on? Also what programs do you use to record videos then do voice overs and edit?

don't worry it's going to be street fighter 2. i obviously need to make a control panel for a 6 button layout. this panel can be unbolted and replaced with the one i make. i'm going to be printing the monitor bezel and control panel art to match the marquee.

uhh when recording you will have raw video file that you can bring into windows movie maker. should be free or downloadable.

personally i used sony vegas or on a mac adobe final cut but those programs are complicated and overkill.

to do a voice over simply record a video of your voice, drop it on the video "timeline" behind your footage, so that the video footage from your voiceover is hidden, and make sure to mute the sound on your initial video footage so it doesn't interfere with your voice track. does that make sense?

neo geo is awesome. what is the plan?

i'm just going to finish wiring the 4th buttons and eventually i will make a new control panel for sf2. i already have the mdf so i need to measure and cut it.

sounds awesome what are you going to do with neo geo after?

i'm going to keep everything so i can switch back if i want. i have multiple neo geo games so it's a lot of value and easy to switch them

You seem to now quite a bit about Street Fighter, do you have a favorite character to use?

well my original favorite character from Street Fighter World Warrior, which is what I started on, is Guile. but years later I discovered he is broken and unbalanced, being the undisputed only top tier character.

my new favorite character is Cammy!

i thought Sagat was the only top tier character

well first of all the original sf2 did not have boss characters selectable.

from the original post:
"If some people are clueless as to what Tier's are, although this summary does not do it justice, I will say that Tier's are a ranking of characters advantages and disadvantages, and exploits, etc, etc when having two players of equal skill against one another (Two players of equal skill who know how to play the game).

Street Fighter II World Warriors

Top Tier
Guile

Upper Tier
Dhalsim

Middle Tier
Everyone Else (no particular order)

Low Tier
Ken
Ryu

Guile - He without question is the undisputed Emperor in WW, he dominates so completely and utterly in this game, that it isn't even funny. He dominates everywhere, zoning, spacing, poking, positioning, you name it, he is #1 period, he even has the crazy 5-hit jab dizzy and re-dizzy, and of course, you can't forget the "handcuffs" although those aren't tournament viable but fun to use on newbies, lolz. Dhalsim is a far, far, and away #2.

Street Fighter II Hyper Fighting
Note: Hyper Fighting to this day, is the most balanced Street Fighter game ever made, and arguably the most balanced 2-D fighting game of all time, and in my opinion in the Top 3 most balanced fighting games of all time


Top Tier
Ryu
Guile
Blanka

Upper Tier
Sagat
Ken
Zangief

Middle Tier
Chunli
E. Honda
Dhalsim
Balrog

Low Tier
Vega
M. Bison

Ryu - The best character in Hyper Fighting, the speed boost greatly improved his gameplay, and the nerfing of the Top 3 CE characters, Guile, Bison, and Sagat helped as well, since Ryu was ranked #4 in CE. 11-39 Hadouken speed, making it the fastest Hadouken in SFII incarnation, jab shoryuken beast, 1-frame inv. start up hurricane kick which could pass through attacks or projectiles and knock the opponent to the ground, crazy 2 in 1 aerial hurricane kicks against taller opponents, Ryu is the most complete character in HF.

Blanka - Excellent poking game and damage potential, Vertical Roll is simply too good, on hit, and even on block, because on block, it leads to grab throw madness.

Zangief - Super Fast Lariat with 3xKicks with invincibility, crazy cross ups with the beastly body splash, the monster c.mk on block into SPD. HF. Zangief was a contender without a doubt.


Super Street Fighter II Turbo (This one, the tier spot in which the character is in, and the placements of their names within that tier spot is not in any particular order, considering some people say O. Sagat, is #1, while other's Sim, other's Rog, etc, etc, you get the idea, however they are ranked within where they are respectively placed though)

Elite Tier
Gouki

Top Tier
O. Sagat
Dhalsim
Balrog
Vega (Alot of people consider him Top Now, so I'm throwing him up there)

Upper Tier
Chunli
Ryu
M. Bison

Middle Tier
Dee Jay
Guile
Ken

Low Tier
E. Honda
Fei-Long
Zangief

Bottom Tier
Hawk
Blanka
Cammy

O. Sagat - Sickening Tiger Shot speed of 11-37, making these Tiger Shots as deadly as his CE counterpart. Plus 2 in 1's with his lk, sickening damage, and super dominant zoning game made O. Sagat one of the most powerful and feared characters in ST.

Balrog - Best Rushdown Game in ST period. Excellent pokes, mixups, and low sweep dash, throw which leads to stupid guessing game and mixups, the BEST SUPER in the game, and it can even stuff out O. Sagat doing a Low Tiger shot from full screen, which is BS imo.

Street Fighter III 3rd Strike

Top Tier
Chunli
Yun

Upper Tier
Ken
Makoto
Dudley
Yang

Middle Tier
Gouki
Urien
Ryu
Oro
Ibuki
Elena

Low Tier
Necro
Alex
Remy
Q
Hugo
Twelve

Bottom Tier
Sean

I read at srk.com a few months ago, that Chunli had now taken the #1 spot in the 3S Tier Listing, and this was coming from Japan, and since Japan is overall better then any other country in 3S, most would likely agree that they know what they are talking about."

this is pretty accurate. Sagat was notorious for dominating Street Fighter IV in online matches

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i don't suppose you know a strategy for beating Ryu with Ryu?

Defeating Ryu with is all about trying to gain an advantage through concentrated play, then continuing with solid play until you defeat him.

I recommend:
Be a machine with fireballs. You must be able to break even or come on top during fireball wars.

Land a jump kick when your opponent miscalculates and throws a fireball, you get a free hit.

Use the dragon punch for anti-air. If you can keep your opponent from jumping in and in fact damage them when they jump in by countering, then you will gain the advantage. don't get greedy and try to go on the offensive after a successful dragon punch. you must stay at jump kicks length and anticipate their next move.

Each time you successfully knock your opponent down, you must throw a fireball and time it so that as soon as they get up they are forced to block or they will take a hit. You won't be vulnerable at all so you may be able to gain an advantage here if you are relentless. Better to be a little slower/late than to waste the fireball if it passes through them.

The theory is that you are evenly matched and will do about the same damage to each other over time, so you need to edge out your opponent.

Hope this helps.