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Title: Snapped CRT neck - I'm an idiot
Post by: ExitWound on January 25, 2015, 03:48:05 pm
Just picked up a Track & Field - first arcade to own. Looks great next to the four pinball machines. I've been messing with the edge connector wiring attempting to fix a trackball issue on the game and BAM! Knocked my head off the neck of the tube and snapped it. POP! HISSSSSSSSsssssssssssss! Frown. :(

The monitor was gorgeous. From what I can see on the stickers, it's an Electrohonme G07CBO (38-G07-904-00) with zero burn-in on the tube, which is marked 19VJTP22/19VMAP22.

Everything video was working great. Colors were nice. No artifacts of any mention. But now with a cracked neck, how do I proceed? What are the next steps? If anyone can help me out, that'd be great.


Title: Re: Snapped CRT neck - I'm an idiot
Post by: John's Arcade on January 25, 2015, 05:37:27 pm
Your only next step is a replacement tube. That's a bummer dude! It happens to all of us, don't feel bad! I did it on my Pac-Man cabaret. :(

Here's a good starting point:

http://junknet.net/donor-tvs

Or... just find another monitor and start over.


Title: Re: Snapped CRT neck - I'm an idiot
Post by: ExitWound on January 25, 2015, 07:22:54 pm
Your only next step is a replacement tube. That's a bummer dude! It happens to all of us, don't feel bad! I did it on my Pac-Man cabaret. :(

Here's a good starting point:

http://junknet.net/donor-tvs

Or... just find another monitor and start over.

Thanks, John! But UGH! I feel so stupid. Thing is, I rap my head coming out from under tables and desks ALL THE TIME! I think it's my glasses. You'd think I'd have learned by now the dimensions of my noggin. Apparently not. Just rapped it right off that thing. Knew exactly what I did. Can't be more angry with myself.

I've been doing some reading for a few hours (since I can't play it) and still learning the ins and outs of tube swapping. First, I need a tube with the same pinout (CR-23). Then, from what I've gathered so far, I can use the G07's yoke on the new replacement tube since I know the G07 chassis and yoke were fine before my accident.

But my biggest primary need is a 19" tube with a CR-23 socket, correct? If I go dumpster diving or sidewalk picking or thrift-store searching, this is what I need to begin, correct?



Title: Re: Snapped CRT neck - I'm an idiot
Post by: iankellogg on January 26, 2015, 01:51:55 pm
You need to find one with the correct socket and a close reading on the yoke winding resistance.


Title: Re: Snapped CRT neck - I'm an idiot
Post by: ExitWound on January 26, 2015, 03:16:31 pm
You need to find one with the correct socket and a close reading on the yoke winding resistance.

But if I use the same yoke, the need for the winding values goes away and is replaced with convergence issues, yes?


Title: Re: Snapped CRT neck - I'm an idiot
Post by: iankellogg on January 26, 2015, 03:20:24 pm
Potentially you could end up with convergence issues. You are better off leaving the yoke the same and just getting a tube with a close value.


Title: Re: Snapped CRT neck - I'm an idiot
Post by: ExitWound on January 26, 2015, 04:45:28 pm
Potentially you could end up with convergence issues. You are better off leaving the yoke the same and just getting a tube with a close value.

The list of potential high ohm yokes seems to be shallow though, compared to the number of low ohm yokes out there. I don't want to end up with 10 broken tv's in my basement in the end :)


Title: Re: Snapped CRT neck - I'm an idiot
Post by: P-feif on January 26, 2015, 05:20:19 pm
Here this is a shop local to me called Big Toys. I just had them rejuvinate a tube for me and they told me that they have a lot of tubes in stock. I'm sure they can ship one to you if they have the correct one.

http://games4sale.net/drupal/


Title: Re: Snapped CRT neck - I'm an idiot
Post by: VertexGuy on January 30, 2015, 06:03:17 pm
Your only next step is a replacement tube. That's a bummer dude! It happens to all of us, don't feel bad! I did it on my Pac-Man cabaret. :(

Here's a good starting point:

http://junknet.net/donor-tvs

Or... just find another monitor and start over.

Thanks, John! But UGH! I feel so stupid. Thing is, I rap my head coming out from under tables and desks ALL THE TIME! I think it's my glasses. You'd think I'd have learned by now the dimensions of my noggin. Apparently not. Just rapped it right off that thing. Knew exactly what I did. Can't be more angry with myself.

I've been doing some reading for a few hours (since I can't play it) and still learning the ins and outs of tube swapping. First, I need a tube with the same pinout (CR-23). Then, from what I've gathered so far, I can use the G07's yoke on the new replacement tube since I know the G07 chassis and yoke were fine before my accident.

But my biggest primary need is a 19" tube with a CR-23 socket, correct? If I go dumpster diving or sidewalk picking or thrift-store searching, this is what I need to begin, correct?



G07's are alittle harder to find direct drop ins...  I just did one myself.

you have two options.
harvest a G07 from a junk machine you pick up cheap.
just dive in (got nothing to loose) and find a donor tv with a direct drop in tube.

3rd option gets ugly..
buy a working good g07 off ebay or seller (pricey)


Title: Re: Snapped CRT neck - I'm an idiot
Post by: ExitWound on February 01, 2015, 09:00:39 pm
Thanks for all the ideas. I managed to get the G07 out of the cabinet today. Got the machine hooked up to a CGA->VGA converter in the meantime so I can at least play it.

The monitor looked to have no burn or issues when in the cabinet beneath the smoked plexi, but in fact, it was in a Pac_Man, probably for quite some time as the burn is pretty noticeable. Still, the picture was great, nice and crisp. I hope to replace the tube soon. Doesn't look to be that difficult from the videos I've watched. Convergence just is something I haven't ever touched before (other than on rear-projection sets).


Title: Re: Snapped CRT neck - I'm an idiot
Post by: VertexGuy on February 02, 2015, 08:56:17 pm
with the right drop in, you might not have to even mess with the convergence.

I did a swap recently and I shit you not..
just hooked up the chassis,, looked brand goddamn new.


Title: Re: Snapped CRT neck - I'm an idiot
Post by: ExitWound on February 02, 2015, 09:27:18 pm
Where did you find the replacement? Craigslist? Another user here? What are some good resources to find these things?


Title: Re: Snapped CRT neck - I'm an idiot
Post by: VertexGuy on February 04, 2015, 10:10:09 pm
Goodwill or salvation army store.

Just picked a few known drop ins today.


Title: Re: Snapped CRT neck - I'm an idiot
Post by: ExitWound on February 08, 2015, 10:58:11 pm
Goodwill or salvation army store.

Just picked a few known drop ins today.


I don't know if this is a Pennsylvania law or not, but the Goodwill store here will no longer accept CRTs. (We also can't put them out on the curb either.) Too bad. I have to call recyclers to see if they have them if I'm to find anything apparently :(


Title: Re: Snapped CRT neck - I'm an idiot
Post by: VertexGuy on February 09, 2015, 09:28:00 am
yeah we get fined for putting crt's on the curb in Connecticut.

Goodwill still has them. so I buy em wether I need em or not for now.


Title: Re: Snapped CRT neck - I'm an idiot
Post by: amoore2600 on February 12, 2015, 03:00:59 pm
I made a video for a tube swap I did for a WG 19k7000 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj3kNfdWNdQ